Comments on: Leica M11 Monochrom Review: Pure B&W Performance https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2023/05/leica-m11-monochrom-review-pure-bw-performance/ Leica News, Reviews and Community Wed, 29 May 2024 08:14:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: Oleg https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2023/05/leica-m11-monochrom-review-pure-bw-performance/#comment-352482 Wed, 29 May 2024 08:14:38 +0000 https://www.reddotforum.com/?p=31610#comment-352482 At low ISOs when converting color photos to b/w, I personally don’t see the difference between m11 and m11m. If you zoom in to 400%, the M11m is a little sharper, but it’s like using different lenses. On M9 and M9m the difference was visible to the eyes.
And you didn’t compare the pictures with M11 and M11m side by side.

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By: Viliam D https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2023/05/leica-m11-monochrom-review-pure-bw-performance/#comment-324003 Fri, 26 May 2023 06:39:10 +0000 https://www.reddotforum.com/?p=31610#comment-324003 David,

thank you for this great review and the guide how to get the most out of this camera.
I think that user experience with M11(M) and now Q3 (ie with 60MPs sensors camera) may indicate:
M camera version with in-build electronic viewfinder and image stabilisation (IS) would make it better, even stronger work horse when coupled with sensor of 60+MPs. It would provide up to 5 stops improvement related to “ISO performance”. I note you hardly use shutter speed slower than 1/320s even with 35mm lens, to ensure sharpness of final pictures. With in-built IS up to 5 times lower ISO setting could be used to achieve yet better results in low light situations – one of key selling points for this camera. I note that to ensure tack precise focus you also relied mostly on use of EVF given details that 60MPs sensor can reveal and is made for. In the low light situations where this camera offers the main competitive advantage EVF is a must for focus anyhow. Even if RF had to be eliminated from such a camera it could still be called “M” for “manual”. I note that many photographers use M lenses on SL cameras (for small factor and weight advantage these lenses offer compared to their SL counterparts) and appreciate focusing and IS mechanism of SL bodies. This coupling I believe is suboptimal solution (perhaps splitting hair a bit here for most use cases) in the world of Leica where we pay hefty premium for excellence to be achieved via M lens – M body matching manufacturing perfection. I would not hesitate to bet on that demand for such camera would exceed that for M11M and hence no bigger risk for Leica company business to take than they are used to taking already…

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By: Fede Duran https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2023/05/leica-m11-monochrom-review-pure-bw-performance/#comment-323272 Mon, 22 May 2023 15:11:08 +0000 https://www.reddotforum.com/?p=31610#comment-323272 Incredibly complete review, as usual, David.

I shoot 2/3 of my work in black and white, but own a M11 and still don’t know if this investment worth the financial effort or maybe saving my dollars for the future SL3 (2024) is a wiser option.

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By: Frédéric Chiche https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2023/05/leica-m11-monochrom-review-pure-bw-performance/#comment-322816 Sat, 20 May 2023 08:05:25 +0000 https://www.reddotforum.com/?p=31610#comment-322816 Wonderful review. You have deliberately chosen the M optics which make it possible to exploit the exceptional resolution of the sensor. I imagine that you have tested other optics, those of the Classic Line or authentic vintage optics. What do you think are the optics that offer the most interesting rendering on the M11M, distinguishing the sharp rendering from a softer rendering. thanks in advance

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By: Frédéric Chiche https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2023/05/leica-m11-monochrom-review-pure-bw-performance/#comment-322772 Sat, 20 May 2023 01:47:15 +0000 https://www.reddotforum.com/?p=31610#comment-322772 Magnifique review . Vous avez choisi à dessein les optiques M qui permettent d’exploiter la résolution exceptionnelle du capteur . J’imagine que vous avez testé d’autres optiques , celles de la Classic Line ou d’authentiques optiques vintages . Quelles sont selon vous les optiques qui offrent le rendu le plus intéressant sur le M11M , en distinguant le rendu Sharp d’un rendu plus doux . Merci par avance

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By: David Farkas https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2023/05/leica-m11-monochrom-review-pure-bw-performance/#comment-322570 Thu, 18 May 2023 21:19:10 +0000 https://www.reddotforum.com/?p=31610#comment-322570 In reply to Richard Hay Jr.

Here, I’m just referring to the exposure slider in Lightroom. Each whole integer number represents one stop. So, if I’m pushing 3 stops that means that that exposure slider is set to +3.00. Hope that clarifies.

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By: Richard Hay Jr https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2023/05/leica-m11-monochrom-review-pure-bw-performance/#comment-322543 Thu, 18 May 2023 18:07:47 +0000 https://www.reddotforum.com/?p=31610#comment-322543 Great review and detail. Dumb question. What controls do you use to “push” in Lightroom? How do you measure # stops there? Thanks

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By: David Farkas https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2023/05/leica-m11-monochrom-review-pure-bw-performance/#comment-322537 Thu, 18 May 2023 17:20:14 +0000 https://www.reddotforum.com/?p=31610#comment-322537 In reply to Brad Husick.

We talked about diffraction limits with the 60MP sensor on our Red Dot Forum Camera talk M11 Monochrom episode. Definitely best practice to avoid stopping down past f/5.6 for most shooting on the M11M. I found that stretching to f/8 for times I really needed the extra depth of field was still okay. But for sure, I would not recommend f/11-f/16, as there will be noticeable diffraction and softening of details.

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By: Brad Husick https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2023/05/leica-m11-monochrom-review-pure-bw-performance/#comment-322133 Wed, 17 May 2023 04:37:46 +0000 https://www.reddotforum.com/?p=31610#comment-322133 Great review as usual. I was a little disappointed that you didn’t cover diffraction limits at smaller apertures.

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